Friday, February 20, 2009

2009 Top Prospect List: #9 Juan Francisco, 3b

Juan Francisco
Height 6-2, Weight 210, B/T: L/R, DOB: 6/24/1987
2008 Redlegs Baseball Prospect Ranking: #7

While Juan Francisco's recent performance has him rising to "blue chip prospect" status in the minds of many, a combination of factors actually has him falling in value in my mind. At this point, there doesn't seem to be all that much upside left with Juan, as he has proven himself to be a two tool player (power and strong arm), which limits his overall projection.


The Reds sent Juan Francisco to high-A Sarasota for the entire 2008 season. After posting a solid 2007 line of .268/.301/.463/.764 at low-A Dayton, Francisco followed up with another solid line of .277/.303/.496/.799 in 2008. He cranked 23 homeruns in a challenging environment for hitters. In addition, Francisco demonstrated an improved line drive rate, jumping from 13% in 2007 to 21% in 2008. Unfortunately, the solid batting average and power came at a cost, as he posted a horrendous K/BB ratio of 123/19 and he struck out once every 4.2 ABs.

Francisco also made the decision to scrap switch hitting and focus strictly on hitting from the leftside. Obviously, the decision paid off, as he hit for a good average and very good power. Unfortunately, hitting from only the left side didn't improve his contact or walk rate.

Here's a video clip of Francisco at the plate. He utilizes both a wide spread stance and an open stance at the plate. He also has a big bat waggle in his pre-pitch stance and some length to his swing, which is due in part to his long arms. As he hustles down the line you can see his slightly stocky build and the problems that additional weight gain will likely cause.


After a solid season high-A Sarasota, Francisco joined Gigantes del Cibao to play in the Dominican winter league. His performance opened more than a few eyes, as he posted a slash line of .360/.419/.665/1.084 to go along with 12 homeruns and a 34/12 K/BB ratio. However, it's important to put his performance in the proper perspective.

The Dominican Winter league is widely regarded as having had very poor pitching this season, which is why offensive numbers are up across the board. This provides a bit more context for Francisco's performance and makes it less impressive than it appears at first glance.

More than anything, it seems to be Francisco's performance in winter ball that has people talking, but at this point I'm not sure it's quite justified. He clearly got a significant boost from watered down pitching and has yet to post an .800+ OPS season in his professional career.


In my mind, the combination of factors that are beginning to decrease Francisco's value are 1) Plate Discipline and 2) Positional Value.

Individually, neither would be an insurmountable problem, but when combined they are a substantial drag on Francisco's value.

The elephant in the room that can't go without comment is Francisco's horrendous control of the strikezone. It's almost indescribable just how bad it is. In 1,268 minor league At Bats, Francisco has walked only 48 times and struck out 327 times. That works out to be one walk every 26.4 ABs and one strikeout every 3.9 ABs. Not the kind of ratios you want to see out of your prospects.

It must be said that it's entirely possible to be a successful big league hitter despite having little ability to control the strikezone. In 2008, Juan Francisco had a BB/K ratio of .154, which would have qualified for worst among all qualified MLB regulars behind Kevin Kouzmanoff, Carlos Gomez, Adam Jones, Jose Guillen, and Corey Hart. Obviously, those players aren't without value, but what they aren't is first basemen. And, ultimately that may be where Francisco ends up.

Players like Gomez, Jones, and Hart have a much broader set of skills and play much more valuable positions than first base. The positional value of a player like Adam Jones or Carlos Gomez allows them to get away with poor strikezone control. It's a lot easier for a player in a premier defensive position to succeed with a flawed offensive approach than it is for a first baseman, because a first baseman's value is driven almost exclusively by his bat. Players in premier defensive positions typically have enough secondary skills (defense, speed, etc.) to offset their poor control of the strikezone. However, that's rarely the case for first basemen, who have to hit and hit well to keep their jobs.

In 2008, Francisco played primarily at third base, but the Reds are facing a logjam at the hot corner. Edwin Encarnacion continues (for reasons beyond my comprehension) to start at third at the MLB level, while Neftali Soto and Todd Frazier are both in the mix for the third base jobs in the system. Ultimately, something has to give and it may well be Francisco, who is beginning to profile better at firstbase. A reality that becomes more likely as Francisco continues to fill out. I've read reports recently indicating that Francisco has added some bad weight to his lower body, which won't help his already below average range.

If Francisco ends up at firstbase, then not only is the value of his power bat diminished, but his only other plus tool is completely negated. Francisco has a very strong arm, but for obvious reasons that just isn't very valuable at first base. At first base, Francisco's offensive game will have to carry him and he just doesn't have the complete offensive skills to be a valuable first baseman.

Hitting is made up of three things: 1) batting average, 2) on-base percentage, and 3) power. To hit for a high average, you have to make contact at a good clip: Francisco doesn't. To have a high on-base percentage, you have to have a selective approach: Francisco doesn't. To hit for power, you have to have strength and loft in your swing: Francisco does. So, Juan has only one of three hitting skills at a position that requires at least two.

Not surprisingly, there just aren't many MLB first basemen who exhibit poor control of the strikezone and those who do typically have the ability to hit for a high batting average. Unfortunately, Francisco's high strikeout rate likely will preclude him from hitting for a high average, which would leave him with just the ability to hit for power. Perhaps the best MLB comparison for Juan Francisco is Kansas City Royal Mike Jacobs: a low contact, poor plate discipline, good power first baseman who just isn't all that valuable and likely won't hold onto a starting job for very long.


Ironically enough, Francisco's value may be at an all-time high, but there's also a good chance that it'll never go any higher. Realistically speaking, he's staring a detrimental position change in the face and just doesn't have the hitting skill-set to sustain his value after such a move. Now might be the ideal time for the Reds to consider dealing him. Overall, Francisco still has value, but there are a number of red flags that drag down his upside. For now, he checks in at #9 on the list.


  1. Lark great post! I was wondering who would come in at number 9. So you think first base is where he will end up? Could he not play a corner outfield spot to utilize his arm?

    I heard he had a much better walk rate in the winter league and that's another big reason he has jumped his value

    One thing that jumped at me in the video is he already has kind of a wide stance, but still takes a step towards the pitcher to start his swing. That's a bit unusual don't you think? Maybe If he learned to shorten his stance he could hit for a more consistent avg. thus bringing his hitting skills up to two; wouldn't it be nice?

  2. Hey Smitty,

    Thanks for the comment!

    As for Francisco, the Reds could try him in the outfield, but given his build he seems like a better fit at first. You're right that his arm would be more valuable and a better fit in the outfield, but Francisco has a stocky build and he's only going to continue to fill out. If he adds more weight to his lower half, then I'm just not sure that he'll have the mobility to play an effective outfield.

    You could play him in the outfield and just accept the fact that he will very likely have below average range. But, again, do his other skills play well enough to offset his diminished range? Personally, I don't think so.

    Another reason why it might be the right time to trade him is that we have Joey Votto at first and Yonder Alonso on the cusp of the majors. Personally, I don't think either one of those two can handle any spot other than first, so you already have a 1b logjam.

    As for Francisco's walk rate in winter ball, I think it's more indicative of poor pitching over a small sample size than of any appreciable improvement by Francisco. He walked 12 times in 161 ABs, so it's tough to draw any conclusions from that type of sample size. It's possible that there was some improvement, but I think it is more likely that he received a couple intentional walks and a pitcher threw 4 to the backstop during one of his ABs.

    It'll be interesting to see if he shows any appreciable improvement in controlling the strikezone in 2009, but I'm not too optimistic.

    As for his stance, it is a bit unusual. As with most hitters who use an open stance, his first move with his stride foot is to close up by moving his foot towards homeplate. He then uses a toe tap and strides forward towards the pitcher. So, it's really a two stage stride. Most hitters who use such a wide stance just pick up their front foot and put it back down, but Juan has a bit more forward movement with his.

    He could shorten up his stance, but what he really needs to do is shorten up his swing. He's got long arms and a long swing, which makes it difficult to maintain consistent contact. Of course, the question then becomes, if you shorten up his swing, then does he still generate the same power. If not, then would the trade off be worth it? Something to consider.


  3. I cant figure out how ofton you post. is it every 3 or 4 days, or is it just whenever you feel like posting. Im sure it takes you awhile to right these articals, because they are the most in depth and well thought out i can find. keep up the good work.

  4. Hey Anon,

    Thanks for the comment!

    I wish I could give you a clear schedule of when I post these write ups, but it depends on a number of different factors. Before writing, I try to do comprehensive research on the player. Then, of course, I have to figure out what angle to take for the write up and what to focus on. As you mentioned, it actually does take a while to complete each write-up. And, on top of it all, I have to find time in the day to get it done.

    I'd love to get one up every other day, but obviously it doesn't always work that way. Right now, I'm about halfway done with #8, so I'll probably have that one up tonight or tomorrow.

    Anyway, I'll try to pick up the pace! :)


  5. Francisco played just as well in the Winter League playoffs when he faced better pitchers such as E Santana and U Jimenez. He walk 8 times in 90 abs in the playoffs with 6 HRs to go with his regular season.

    But the real test will be AAA this year.

    Also Buddy Bell said he has what it takes defensively at 3B saying he has the footwork and soft hands to be a 3B.

  6. Hey Anon,

    You're right, Francisco certainly had a nice Winter League, but from what I've read and heard, the offensive numbers were up across the league.

    Still, better to have the strong performance than not. I'm not convinced that Francisco demonstrated improved discipline, as the sample size is too small. Personally, I think the hitters who actually CAN improve their ability to control the strike zone are the exception, rather than the rule. So, I'm not going to hold my breath on Francisco take a big step forward in that department.

    I have a lot of respect for Buddy Bell and what he's accomplished in the game. And, who knows, maybe Buddy's right, but I think Francisco is going to have to move to a less demanding defensive position. He's going to continue to fill out and his range is already merely average at best. To me, the odds of him staying at third are pretty slim.

    As for 2009, the real test for Francisco will be double-A, rather than triple-A. I'm sure you know this already and just mistyped it, but Francisco hasn't been above high-A yet. But, you're right, 2009 will be an important test for Francisco and I hope he passes with flying colors.

    Anyway, thanks for the comment!!