Thursday, December 25, 2008

2009 Top Prospect List: #25 Alexis Oliveras

Alexis Oliveras
Height 6-0, Weight 180, B/T: L/R, DOB: 03/29/1989
2008 Redlegs Baseball Prospect Ranking: "Other Notables"

At this point in his career, Alexis Oliveras is still more about projection than production. However, I find him to be a much more interesting prospect than those older prospects who have developed to the point that they have reached far lower ceilings. It's the age old question, when valuing prospects how do you balance polish/certainty vs. projection/upside? For this list, when it is at issue, I'm putting more weight on upside than polish.

Outfielders like Chris Heisey, Sean Henry, and Shaun Cumberland are more polished and are further along in the development time-line than Oliveras. However, none of that trio projects as anything more than a 4th outfielder at the MLB level. At this point, Oliveras is much less polished and has a long way to travel on the development time-line, but if he does then he has a greater chance to be an impact player than the players with the lower ceilings.


Oliveras was drafted by the Reds in the 9th round of the 2007 draft out of the Puerto Rico Baseball Academy, Guaynabo, P.R. He was drafted at the age of 18. He was very raw and the Reds sent him to the Gulf Coast League, where he appeared completely overwhelmed. He posted a line of .191/.240/.253 in 47 games and 162 ABs. Clearly, he was raw and not ready for the professional game.

In 2008, the Reds again sent Oliveras back to the Gulf Coast League to repeat the level. His second go around went much better than the first. He posted a line of .279/.345/.383/.728 in 39 games and 154 ABs on the season. The .728 OPS doesn't look all that impressive, but the Gulf Coast League OPS was only .687 and his team's overall OPS was only .654, so he was well above average on the season.

Oliveras was white-hot to start the season, posting a line of .400/.526/.400 in 19 plate appearances in June. In 64 plate appearances in July, he posted a line of .351/.422/.509. Unfortunately, he posted a weak .208/.256/.273 line in 82 plate appearances in August to finish out the season.

While his overall line was solid, there are a few redflags to his 2008 season. On the year, he hit line drives at a 10% clip and groundballs at a 63% clip. Given the age of the prospects in the GCL, I suspect that this is not uncommon. Clearly, Oliveras needs to get a bit more loft on the ball and increase his linedrive rate. In addition, he needs to add some strength to allow him to drive the ball with greater authority. However, his walk rate improved from 5.6% in 2007 to 8.5% in 2008.

Oliveras spent the majority of his time in centerfield, logging 20 games there, but also spent 15 games in rightfield. He logged 2 assists in center and 2 in right. He seems to be a competent outfielder, but his value would jump if he can stay in center, as he may not develop the bat to be a starting corner outfielder. In fact, his professional career may hinge on his ability to stick in center, though it'll depend on how well his bat develops.

Once again Alexis failed to put together a quality full season of play, but he did take a significant step forward. Not to mention, I can't help but be encouraged by his swing, which seems to be one that can make him a viable prospect.


While Oliveras certainly doesn't possess his tools or raw ability, his body type does remind me of Cameron Maybin. Maybin is a bit taller, but both are high waisted and have long legs. In addition, each seems to have a bit of electricity in their legs that makes them uneasy just standing around, seeming to prefer constant motion. Maybe it's an abundance of fast twitch muscle fibers or just too much sugar in their diet, but whatever it is they seem to have a bit more bounce in their step than other prospects.

Unfortunately, Oliveras still isn't very strong, but he has an average arm and above average speed. Hopefully, he'll continue to add muscle as he matures, as he'll need it to avoid being overpowered by more advanced competition.


Oliveras has a smooth left-handed swing, which is what first caught my eye.

He utilizes a significantly wider than shoulder width stance, which prevents him from using any kind of stride at the plate. In addition, he hits out of a bit of crouch, which looks a bit unusual given the wide stance that he employees. Like most hitters who utilize the wide stance, he doesn't use a stride. The width of the stance results in a hitter being limited to simply lifting his front foot up and setting it right back down to trigger his weight transfer. However, when Oliveras sets the front foot back down, he has the tendency to open it up. When he first gets into his hitting stance, his toe is pointed directly towards homeplate, but when he sets the foot back down after his stride, the toe is often pointed more towards third base than it was before the stride. This new front foot position can lead to Oliveras opening his hips too soon, which bleeds power from the swing. If the hips fire too soon, then it becomes more of an arm swing, which results in the hitter rolling over the ball and generates a lot of weak groundballs to the right side of the infield (which helps explain his high groundball %).

While I usually don't mind a wider stance and a negligible stride (it has worked wonders for both Joe DiMaggio and Albert Pujols), I'd actually like to see Oliveras shorten up his stance and take a longer stride at the plate. I think that would help him drive the ball a bit better and prevent him from firing the hips too soon. As it stands now, he isn't getting enough line-drives, instead hitting the ball on the ground a high percentage of the time.

Oliveras employees a high hand position, as he takes his stance with his hands up by his left ear. This isn't uncommon and is a pre-pitch hand position shared by fellow prospect Yonder Alonso. As the pitch is delivered, Oliveras lifts his front foot to begin his weight transfer and brings his hands down and back to shoulder level, which puts them into a good hitting position. Overall, Oliveras gets into good hitting position when the pitch is delivered.

After the swing passes through the hitting zone he takes his top hand off the bat, but he has a much shorter follow-through than is typical for one handed finishers. He doesn't release the bat on the follow through and let it come all the way around in typical fashion, but rather restricts its movement at the finish of the swing. It more resembles the Fred McGriff follow-through than the classic Will Clark follow-through. While this is typically just an aesthetic difference, sometimes cutting the swing short can result in a loss of power. If the hitter is restricting the swing too soon, then he may be limiting his shoulder rotation. If the hitter isn't getting good shoulder rotation, then the bat may actually be decelerating at the point of contact, which would obviously reduce the power generated. Right now, Oliveras seems to get sufficient shoulder rotation, so it's not likely a problem, though I wouldn't mind seeing him "let the swing go" a bit more, as it might help him tap into a bit more power as he climbs the ladder. He'll never be a power hitter, but he'll need a bit more pop if he is going to develop into a prospect of note.

You can see his scouting video here.


While Oliveras still has a LONG way to go on the road to the majors and plenty of time to take a wrong turn, for now he checks in at #25. Last year he was under the "Other Notables" and he took enough of a step forward for me to reward him with the last slot on the big list. Once again, Alexis showed JUST enough to pique my interest. He may ultimately never pan out, but for now he's more interesting to me than the Chris Heisey types who project as nothing more than 4th outfielders and, besides, we've heard enough about those guys already. Still, he's admittedly a bit of a long shot to make it to the majors and have a productive MLB career. Even so, Oliveras gets the nod for the 25th slot, but he'll have to show something more in 2009 to warrant inclusion on the 2010 list.


  1. Sean Henry is so underrated in the Reds organization until it is pathetic. I often wonder if the people who make the decisions and write these stories ever had the opportunity to actually see him play? Obviously not. To not get respect from your own organization is a tragedy. Daniel Dorn also gets no respect from the Reds. Go figure.

  2. Well, I'm a huge fan of Danny Dorn, so I certainly don't underrate him. I love his bat and I couldn't agree more that he doesn't get the type of respect that he deserves. He's posted back-to-back seasons of .900+ OPS at double-A, but still gets no respect from professional baseball wonks.

    As for Henry, he's a solid player, but both he and Chris Heisey strike me as being 4th outfielder types. They don't have any serious weaknesses, but then again they don't have any serious strengths either. All in all, both are solid, well-rounded players, but they're fringe prospects.

    Thanks for the comment.

  3. Hey Lark, I love reading your prospect lists. Keep up the great work man.

    btw this is OBM from Redszone. I haven't seen you around in awhile.

  4. Hey OnBase,

    Good to hear from ya! I haven't been over to RedsZone in a while, but I should drop on by. The blog and a few other things have been keeping me jumping as of late.

    Anyway, thanks for the comment and don't be a stranger!!


  5. I think I would have Heisey on the list at this point. The things that impress me are the steady improvements. His slugging is improving. His stolen base success rate has been improving (and with more attempts each season). He has solid on-base skills as well and they have maintained.

    He's been basically a more consistent Chris Dickerson with better k/bb rates. It may be true that Dickerson has a better frame with which to hit 30 home runs at some point, but I think Heisey will progress with his power numbers in the majors if he gets a chance. I think he is a notch above Henry and Cumberland, though they may be serviceable 4th outfielders as you said. I would probably have him near the bottom of the 25 and probably over Oliveras at this point. Maybe another year of improvements will put him at .850 ops or better. I'm confident we'll see him at Louisville this year.

    Matt McWax

  6. Hey Matt,

    Thanks for the comment.

    Ultimately, you may be right about Heisey. A couple of the Reds farm system aficionados I chat with are high on Heisey. And,I do think he's the safer bet to have an MLB career than Oliveras, but I do believe that Heisey has about maxed out on his projection. I'm just not sure he'll ever be more than a 4th outfielder, which isn't without value, to be sure, but I decided to roll the dice on Oliveras, who I think has a chance, admittedly rather slim, of developing into more than a 4th outfielder.

    I decided to go with Oliveras for two main reasons. First, I think he's got the faintest glimmer of hope to be more than a 4th outfielder, even if he does have a much greater risk of flaming out. So, at the bottom of the list, I weighted upside a bit more heavily, as 4th outfielder types just aren't that difficult to find. And, second, I've simply got a bit of a gut feeling on Oliveras. Not a strong one, but just enough to warrant including him on the list. In addition, he's less well known than Heisey and would be more interesting to research and write about.

    Heisey is a solid player, but I just don't see the Dickerson type upside with him. In reality, I think he tops out as a 4th outfielder, so I went in another direction. I'd love to have him prove me wrong and develop into a starter, but I'm just not sold on his ability to do so.

    If I was going to bump Oliveras off the list, then I would have done so for Juan Carlos Sulbaran. The hype on him was good, but he had no track record, so I decided to put him in the "Other Notables" category until I could see more of him. Well, he certainly looked strong in the World Baseball Classic, but that was too late to get him onto the list.

    Anyway, thanks for the comment!!


  7. Any updates on the kid Alexis? I hope it works out. They need a leadoff hitter with some speed. I dont care if the kid can hit as long as he can get a bunt down and steal second base on a consistant basis. He seems to strike out too much they need to get Tim Raines in to teach the kids how to run bases.

  8. Anon,

    Oliveras flashed some of the ability that I was expecting to see during the 2009 season. He spent time at rookie level Billings and low-A Dayton.

    For Billings, he hit .270/.326/.352/.678 with 1 homer, 7 steals, and a 27/10 K/BB ratio. Not an incredible performance, but enough to earn him a promotion.

    For Dayton, Oliveras hit .307/.317/.443/.760 with 2 homers, 5 steals, and a 31/2 K/BB ratio.

    Interesting to see him perform better after the promotion. I still like the speed, batting average potential, and his swing mechanics. He has a bit of electricity to his game.

    Unfortunately, I'm just not sure he has enough secondary skills to be a legitimate prospect. To establish himself as a potential MLB starter, he's likely going to need to flash some power or some on-base skill. I'm just not sure his batting average and speed are going to be enough to carve out an MLB career.

    I still like him and he's still young enough to develop, but he'll need to show a bit more on the offensive side. A better walk rate and/or improved power would make him much more valuable.

    Anyway, I'll be keeping an eye on him. Thanks for the comment!!


  9. Lark, what do you think about Chris Heisey now that he is in the BIGs? You were not to high on him in your earlier post.

    What about Sean Henry. They are similar players dubbed by scouts. Sean Henry ended his last season with 23 stolen bases and 11 home runs. Now, his BA is about .315 and he is getting a hit almost every game. Why hasn't Sean Henry been promoted to AAA. He does not have anything else to prove in AA and AAA either. I saw him play the other day and he was awesome. He is great in the outfield. So athletic, fast, and polished. What does the organization really think about Sean Henry and what do you see happening before September?

  10. Anon,

    My opinion on Sean Henry hasn't changed much. He's kind of a fringe prospect. He does some things well, but is something of a tweener. I'm not convinced he has the defensive skills to play center and lacks the bat for a corner slot.

    He certainly does somethings well, but he's 24 and will turn 25 in August, so time is running out. Unfortunately, I just don't see enough out of him to think he'll be a legitimate MLB player.

    He's a career .281/.353/.436/.789 player who hasn't reached triple-A yet. I'd love to see him step forward, but time is running short and I don't see much projection left to his game.

    I'll be rooting for him, but I'm not all that optimistic.

    Thanks for the comment!